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RNZN Best case scenario for Naval Aviation?

Inspired by the thread further down the page about the utter impracticality of the Royal New Zealand Navy operating HMAS Sydney I'd like to enquire as to people's thoughts about the best case scenario...

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I'm inclined to agree that even a CVE would be pushing it for the RNZN, even if they could get one either cheap or free off the US through ANZUS in the 1950s/1960s the crew required would likely be...

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Being realistic, about the most the Kiwis could have expected was SeaKings substituted for Wasp. And the Indians have shown that you can fly a SeaKing off a slightly modified Leander, so that's not an...

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Aviation cruiser? http://s90.photobucket.com/albums/k279/shipbucket/?action=view&current=GBCHEscortCruiserSeries91960AU.gif

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chrisRoach wrote: Zen9 wrote: Well a CVE might be possible, closer to the Thai carrier built in Spain. I'd think that unlikely. Given that Australia got out of the Carrier game it isn't exactly easy...

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A CVE might be possible, but it depends on the ships requirements. Light fleet? Hmmmm.....makes for some interesting pondering, perhaps HMS Vindictive, though I think she's beyond their resources....

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Sorry for the late reply to this thread, busy week! Anyway as regards the Aviation Cruiser idea, I've consulted my copy of Rebuilding the Royal Navy and a modified variant of the Study 6C ship would...

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No the last Majestic CV that was'nt completed, if ordered in the 1950's she'd be OK, but from what I now see the RNZN could'nt afford her.

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Do you mean Leviathan? Well that's certainly a nice thought, what do you think HMNZS Leviathan's career would have looked like had she been adopted by the RNZN.

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In the late 1940's, 50's the RAN had trouble, 1 with modern cruisers and 2 manning the carriers and the cruisers (other than training cruisers). There was an agreement that the requirements for...

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Could've sworn it was named Vindictive, maybe I've gotten confused and it was Leviathan. Considering what I know, it would seem at best a similar history to Canada's. She might even have been...

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I'd disagree with you on that Zen. Melbourne could carry the A-4, but generally only carried 4, with the remainder of the air group was made up of Tracker and SeaKing. By comparison India continued to...

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I stand corrected, though of course they all operated in areas less likely to face large numbers of Soviet bombers toting supersonic anit-ship missiles. Mind the SeaHawk folded up to rather less width...

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As I've commented over on the RN board I think that it is one of those great misfortunes that the 1942 CVL design was formalized just before the technical committee returned their recommendation that...

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Why didn't the RAN make a pitch for HMS Centaur between 1965 and 1972? That way you could've had the Air Group you desired.

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She was old, and they wanted a new CV if they could get one.

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She'd only been going for thirteen years or so, Hermes is still going today with a SLEP or something I'm sure Centaur could have been useful; but then, as ever it would come down to cash!

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A few reasons. Like Zen says, she was old, and the RAN was keen to get something new. As has been explained elsewhere Hermes in Indian service is not an indication of how long the RAN could have kept...

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Centaur operated 1953-58 with BH-5 Hydraulic catapults, 30,000lb arrester wires; Albion and Bulwark were fitted as Centaur until their conversion to commando carriers (no steam cats). 803 & 806...

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Hmmm... can't seem to get that one line to the proper font size... oh well. Fine... just enlarged the whole post so it was all the same size.

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Minor correction: Centaur was delivered from her builders with an axial deck but upon acceptance by the RN was immediately taken in hand for the installation of a 5.5 degree 'interim' angled deck,...

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